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November 1, 1999
12:30 p.m.
Council Chamber
PRESENT:
Elected Officials
Mayor C. Durksen
Councillor T. Baker
Councillor J. Clements
Councillor C. Gordon
Councillor L. King
Councillor B. Levens
Councillor K. Stewart
Corporation of the District of Maple Ridge
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
MINUTES
Appointed Staff
R. W. Robertson, Chief Administrative Officer
J. Hertzog, Acting Municipal Clerk
J. Rudolph, General Manager of Public Works and Development
M. W. Murray, General Manager of Community Development,
Parks and Recreation Services
T. Fryer, Director of Current Planning
S. Karasz, Confidential Secretary
Other Staff as Required
K. Grout, Manager of Environmental Affairs
K. Swift, Recreation Co-ordinator
M. Davies, Director of Parks and Facilities
Prior to the commencement of the meeting, Mayor Durksen issued a press Release to B.C.T.V.
on behalf of the Municipal Council and the residents of the community expressing condolences
to the family of Greg Moore. A minute of silence was observed in his memory.
The Mayor departed at this point in the meeting and Acting Mayor Baker assumed the Chair.
1. DELEGATIONS/STAFF PRESENTATIONS -(10 minutes each)
1.1 Parks and Leisure Services Division -Update on Activities
See Item 4.1 for the report/third quarter statistics.
Kelli Swift reviewed the above noted statistics. She provided highlights of the
comparison summary for 1988-1999 related to participation in the registered programs,
drop-in programs, special services, special events, facility usage, etc. which are detailed
in the report and explained why attendance was up or down. She also reviewed the
Division's programs that are in progress and those that have been completed which are
also detailed in the report.
Councillor Levens noted that Maple Ridge's 125th Anniversary is missing from the list
of special events.
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1.2 Alderwood Consultants re RZ/56/99-23874 and 23884-118 Avenue-
RS-3 to CD-1-93
Linda Rutland-Petch, C. Tech, Alderwood Consultants, read and submitted a letter from
Messrs. William Smart and James Williams dated November 1, 1999 which 1s
summarized as follows:
The two subject properties are owned by Mr. William Smart and Mr. James Williams. In
keeping with the development theme in this neighbourhood, the two older homes located
on the lots have been demolished and steps are being taken to rezone these two properties
and subdivide them into four lots.
A portion of each property has been dedicated to a lane which runs east and west. It is
proposed that the lots to be developed would be situated between the lane and 118
A venue and, as a result, a relatively small portion of each of the two parent lots would
remain on the south side of the lane, adjacent to land owned by Mr. Richard Lam, a
developer operating in the area.
The issue before Committee is whether to forward the application to Public Hearing and
it is the condition with respect to the treatment of the remainders of the two existing
parcels that is of concern to the applicants. These are the two portions of land south of
the lane. Mr. Lam is the only logical purchaser for their property and both developments
depend on a merger of the properties. Mr. Lam has been contacted with a view to having
him acquire the applicants' property and has indicated that he did not anticipate paying
anywhere near market value. The applicants have reviewed their asking price and feel
that the price they seek is perfectly justified. There has been no further response from
Mr. Lam.
The applicants' concern is if the Municipality requires them to divest themselves of the
remainders before zoning approval is granted, they are in a position of having absolutely
no equal footing in their commercial transaction with Mr. Lam. They will end up with a
significant investment locked in a state oflimbo and be unable to proceed. This will have
significant costs. They therefore ask that the Committee remove the condition which
would require them to consolidate the lands south of the lane. They are prepared to
consolidate the remainders and hold that land in abeyance pending fair market resolution
of their issue with Mr. Lam. At the same time, they would be asked to be granted the
appropriate approvals to allow them to proceed with the development of the four lots
north of the lane. The situation will not resolve itself; Mr. Lam has already serviced the
property in a way that clearly anticipates the development of four lots.
Note: See Item 2.1 also.
2. PUBLIC WORKS AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES
2.1 RZ/56/99-23874 and 23884 -118 Avenue-RS-3 to CD-1-93
Reference was made to the staff report dated September 29, 1999 recommending that the
subject application to permit subdivision into four lots be forwarded to Public Hearing
subject to the conditions specified in the said report.
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The Director of Current Planning displayed an overhead map and provided details of the
proposed subdivision pattern of the properties in question and explained how the subject
site will result in the extension of the development presently under construction directly
to the east and tie into a new subdivision to the west. He indicated the location of the
lane which is currently a statutory right-of-way, noting that this zoning application will
formalize it into a dedicated lane.
He referred to the presentation by the applicants regarding consolidation requirements
(See Item 1.1 ). He noted that the staff recommendation is an attempt to resolve this issue
at the zoning stage, however, there appears to be difficulty in getting the parties to come
to a mutual agreement. There are alternatives to dealing with the lands that remain,
however, Council has had some difficulty in the past regarding left over pieces of land. It
will be a dilemma for the Approving Officer to deal with disposal of those lands at the
subdivision stage. If it comes to that, and Council resolves that this issue should be dealt
with at the subdivision stage, he would suggest that the pieces should only be attached to
one of those parcels to increase the possibility of the parties getting together as a business
-arrangement to come to a resolution. He emphasized that staff feels it is appropriate to
• resolve the consolidation issue at the zoning stage.
On question from Councillor Clements, the Director of Current Planning advised that it
would be possible to achieve subdivision on the southern portion without acquisition of
the remaining lands but it would be in a different form. He cannot give a definitive
answer at this point but the yield would probably be affected and they may have to come
back to Council for approval of a variance. He does feel it is appropriate for staff and
Council to be part of a business deal between the individuals concerned and that they
should get their house in order before the application goes forward. The staff
recommendation does not stop the subject application from proceeding to Public .Hearing
and second and third reading. This discussion could take place at the final approval
stage; staff could report back at that time on the applicants' success in dealing with the
property to the south as has been done in other cases. •
Councillor Stewart stated that he will support the recommendation simply because it will
allow the application to carry on.
Councillor King stated that she is in favour of leaving in the condition with respect to
consolidation. Consideration could then be given to the possibility of removing it or
altering it in some way before final reading. She wants to maximize the possibility that
the parties will resolve the matter rather than the District having to do it as it is not part of
the District's business.
Councillor Gordon agreed with Councillor King.
Councillor Clements stated that he is prepared to support the recommendation as it will
permit the application to proceed to Public Hearing. The application could then be held
at second reading predicated on resolution of the problem as there are other avenues that
could be considered.
Councillor Levens questioned how long the application would be held up if the
consolidation issue is not resolved by fourth reading, noting that time is money for a
developer. The Director of Current Planning indicated that he did not anticipate that there
would be a lengthy delay in the process. The application would likely go to the January
Public Hearing and it would be brought back to Council shortly thereafter. Staff could
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report to Council fairly quickly. The parties involved would have time to carry on further
discussions in the meantime.
The Committee agreed to the following recommendation:
RECOMMENDATION
That application Ia/56/99 (23874 and 23884 -118 Avenue) to rezone property
described in the staff report dated September 29, 1999 from RS-3 (One Family
Rural Residential) to CD-1-93 (Amenity Residential District) be forwarded to Public
Hearing, noting that the conditions to be met prior to Public Hearing and prior to
final consideration of the Zone Amending By-law are detailed in that report.
2.2 Soil Conservation Act Exemption -13473 -224 Street (D. Murrell)
Reference was made to the staff report dated October 18, 1999 recommending that the
subject application for a fill permit under the Soil Conservation Act be granted an
exemption subject to certain conditions.
Councillor King noted that work of this nature will have implications on surrounding
properties. She questioned what chance there is for the District to achieve a plan that will
address the drainage needs of the whole North Alouette Floodplain. The drainage
problems will likely be exacerbated as development continues on the hillsides above it.
One property owner can create problems for another. She questioned what authority the
District has and what it can do to be helpful.
The Manager of Environmental Affairs advised that under the current legislation, the
District is only responsible for determining whether the proposed activity meets the
Province's exemption criteria and the District under that legislation has an obligation to
consider the exemption in isolation of the consequences to the area.
She further noted that the District has received some grant funding to look at a
comprehensive study of the area. The study to take a more comprehensive look at
drainage will require the participation of Pitt Meadows, Maple Ridge and Provincial
agencies. It is also her hope that the newly drafted Soil Deposit Regulation By-law will
provide more control for activities in the floodplain, whether the lands are in the
Agricultural Land Reserve or not.
Councillor Clements advised that he has a concern regarding a potential compromise to
the natural drainage occurring in the floodplain. This area floods on a regular basis in the
spring and the fall. He understands that the drainage originates in the Malcolm Knapp
Research Forest. Also, he does not want to see neighbouring properties compromised by
people building dykes.
The Manager of Environmental Affairs reiterated that the current Provincial legislation
only asks if the property meets the exemption criteria and she agrees that a study is
needed.
Councillor Gordon stated that both drainage and flooding in this area needs to be
addressed on a holistic rather than a piece-meal basis. If floodproofing is put into one
area, it will affect the surrounding properties. She will support the application as it
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meets the Pr_ovince's exemption criteria but she hopes that the District will be able to
address it from a holistic point of view at some point.
Councillor Stewart noted that there has been 500 acres to the north turned into a
cranberry bog with significant dyking. There are 140 acres to the west that have been
filled. There is a cross-flow between the North and South Alouette Rivers.
He added that he wants to be clear regarding the liability issue; he wants to know what
the liability would be if Council turned down an application for flood protection that met
the exemption criteria and the land subsequently flooded. He also questioned if there has
been any discussion with the Inspector of Dykes and the Ministry of Municipal Affairs
with respect to the creation of private dykes.
The Manager of Environmental Affairs advised that her calls have not been returned. She
has spoken to the Agricultural Land Commission and they are strictly in the business of
fill activity and seemed unclear with respect to responsibility regarding fill activity. This
can be looked at in the full study that is proposed.
She added that at present it appears the District would be in a greater position of liability
by not dealing with the exemption than by dealing with it. Staff is proposing
amendments that will give some control over the floodplain and put the District in a
position to better deal with the drainage issues.
Councillor Levens asked if the District could send a letter to the Agricultural Land
Commission when responding to the exemption application stating that Council is only
dealing with the application because it is necessary to do so to avoid being held liable.
The Manager of Environmental Affairs responded that those comments could be
included.
Councillor King added that she feels it would be really helpful for Council to send the
application forward in the c:ontext of their discussions in order to encourage the inter-
agency partnership needed to do the drainage study properly. The comments should lead
to what Council ultimately wants to change.
The Committee agreed to the following recommendation:
RECOMMENDATION
That the application for a fill permit under Permit Regulation Section Z(l)(d)(vii) of
the Soil Conservation Act submitted by Ms. D. Murrell for the property at 13473 -
224 Street be granted an exemption provided the placement of fill is carried out in
compliance with the relevant provisions of the Maple Ridge Soil Deposit Regulation
By-law No. 4569-1991 and subject to provisions of the Soil Conservation Act.
2.3 ALR/6/98 -26171 Dewdney Trunk Road
Reference was made to the staff report dated October 14, 1999 recommending that the
subject application to subdivide within the Agricultural Land Reserve (ALR) not be
authorized to proceed to the Agricultural Land Commission (ALC), noting that Council
policy for this area recommends that lands be retained in the ALR.
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Councillor Stewart spoke in opposition to the recommendation; it is his recommendation
that the application be forwarded to the ALC. He noted that the property was zoned RS-3
prior to the implementation of the ALR and if the property was not in the ALR, the
property owner would have the right to come into the Municipality and make an
application.
Councillor Levens stated that she too feels that the application should go to the ALC to
let them make a decision. She noted that there was some question as to whether this
property was put into the ALR before or after the Regional District's Public Hearing on
the ALR and asked if that issue had ever been resolved.
Mr. Slade Dyer, the agent for the applicant, advised that the original plans that were
presented at the Dewdney Alouette Regional District's Public Hearing on the ALR did
include these lands and lands to the east as well.
Councillor Clements advised that he is familiar with the previous applications on this
property and he agrees with Councillors Stewart and Levens. He would rather that this
application went to the ALC for a decision.
Councillor King stated that she supports the staff recommendation as it stands. Council
has been following the Rural Plan which led to policies in the Official Community Plan
governing subdivision within the ALR. This application makes no reference to clustering
and consolidation which is a basis on which current recommendations on applications are
made. Since it is in support of the OCP policies, she supports the recommendation.
Councillor Gordon also stated that she supports the recommendation as it stands for the
same reasons mentioned by Councillor King. In addition, Council just met within the
past month with the ALC and she knows that they are not supportive of this application
as Council has talked to them about it. This application involves staff time and it seems
totally irresponsible to her to send applications to the ALC when Council knows they will
not be supported.
Councillor Stewart stated that if Council does not let the applications proceed, the
fairness of a public process does not take place. He would rather be a little less fiscally
responsible if it means that that the citizens of Maple Ridge will have the opportunity of a
fair public process.
Mr. Dyer advised that for purposes of clarification, Mr. Bromba, the applicant, has owned
the property since 1967, seven years prior to the implementation of the ALR. The
application is for subdivision within the ALR and not for exclusion. Mr. Bromba wants
to subdivide under the existing RS-3 Zone which has been in place since 1961.
Mr. Dyer stated that he has reviewed the Agricultural Land Commission's handbook with
respect to this application relating to the Agricultural Land Commission Act (Section
22.1) which states that local governments may refuse to authorize a subdivision
application of ALR lands if it requires an amendment to the OCP or Zoning By-law in
order to proceed. This application does not require those amendments. This application is
not contrary to any Municipal plans or by-laws or the Zoning By-law. It is only contrary
to the clustering and consolidation concept, however, the land has been reviewed by two
consultants and the clustering and consolidation concept does not apply.
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He further noted that with respect to the policy that net benefits of agriculture be
considered, the applicants feel that if the agricultural benefits are to be fairly considered,
this should be done by the Provincial agency responsible for the ALR who have the
necessary expertise to consider the merits of the agricultural reports the applicants have
on the site.
He advised that in the absence of the ALC, the applications would not have to come to
Council; they could make application to the Approving Officer under the existing zoning.
The applicants therefore request that the farming capabilities of the lands be addressed by
the ALC and that this application be forwarded to the ALC for consideration.
The Committee considered the recommendation in the report that the application not be
authorized to proceed to the Agricultural Land Commission and it was defeated.
(Councillors King and Gordon voted in favour).
The Committee, with the exceptions of Councillors Gordon and King, agreed to the
following recommendation:
RECOMMENDATION
That ALR/6/98 for the property described as Lot 29 except firstly: Part subdivided
by Plan 76434; secondly; part subdivided by Plan LMP 6975; Section 24, Township
12, New Westminster District, Plan 26432 and located at 26171 Dewdney Trunk
Road be authorized to proceed to the Agricultural Land Commission.
(Councillors King and Gordon Opposed)
2.4 Remembrance Day Parade -Request to Use Municipal Streets
Reference was made to the staff report dated October 8, 1999 recommending that the
subject request be approved subject to the conditions specified in the said report.
The Committee agreed to the following recommendation:
RECOMMENDATION
That the Royal Canadian Legion Maple Ridge Branch 88 be authorized to use
Municipal Streets for their Annual Remembrance Day Parade on Thursday,
November 11, 1999 provided the conditions outlined in the staff report dated
October 8, 1999 are met.
3. FINANCIAL AND CORPORATE SERVICES (including Fire and Police)
3.1 Local Improvement Petition -Sanitary Sewer-124 Avenue-By-law No. 5849-1999
Reference was made to the staff report date October 20, 1999 in support of the following
recommendation contained therein with respect to the installation of service connections
at 21298 and 21310/ 21314-124 Avenue.
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The Committee agreed to the following recommendation:
RECOMMENDATION
That Maple Ridge 124 Avenue Local Improvement Construction By-law No. 5849-
1999 be read a first and second time and that rules of order be waived and Maple
Ridge 124 Avenue Local Improvement By-law No. 5849-1999 be read a third time.
4. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND RECREATION SERVICES Nil
4. l Parks and Leisure Services Division -Third Quarter Statistics
Reference was made to the staff report dated October 20, 1999 recommending that the
statistics attached thereto be received for information. The Committee agreed to the
following recommendation:
RECOMMENDATION
That the 1999 third quarter statistical report from the Parks and Leisure Services
Division be received.
4.2 Parks and Leisure Services Commission Open Meeting Minutes -September 9, 1999
Reference was made to the staff report dated October 20, 1999 recommending. that the
subject Minutes attached thereto be received for information. The Committee agreed to
the following recommend~tion.
RECOMMENDATION
That the Minutes of the September 9, 1999 open meeting of the Parks and Leisure
Services Commission be received for information.
5. OTHERISSUES Nil
6. ADJOURNMENT 2:50 p.m.
Acting Mayor T. Baker
Presiding Member of the Committee
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